Forum

Welcome Guest 

Show/Hide Header

Welcome Guest, posting in this forum requires registration.
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Accented Vowels!
jeffdee
Administrator
Posts: 427
Post Accented Vowels!
on: September 10, 2012, 02:17

Want your posts to have all the proper accent marks? Here's a simple low-tech solution. Just copy the following into a text file, and then you can copy and paste these accented vowels into your posts as needed 🙂

á
é
í
ó
ú
ü

Á
É
Í
Ó
Ú
Ü

-Jeff Dee
achanhinid-
rane
Nakomé (Clanless)
Posts: 5
Post Re: Accented Vowels!
on: September 16, 2012, 22:30

Or you can cheat, use an OS/iOS and get the the accented vowels you want just by holding the key down. 😉
Tolekh-
hiDraskalu
Nakomé (Clanless)
Posts: 11
Post Re: Accented Vowels!
on: January 16, 2014, 11:42

Don't forget the accented umlaut u:

Ǘ
ǘ
Miihkali
Nurtsáhlu (Clan-Brother)
Posts: 27
Post Re: Accented Vowels!
on: November 23, 2014, 06:11

By the way, how are they supposed to be pronounced? Does the vowel become longer than usual or is the syllable just "stronger"?
luther
Dlántü (Clan-Head)
Posts: 133
Post Re: Accented Vowels!
on: November 23, 2014, 09:33

Syllable's containing accented vowels are emphasized. The umlouted u is pronounced as the vowel sound in "bit" or "sit", if I recall correctly.
Miihkali
Nurtsáhlu (Clan-Brother)
Posts: 27
Post Re: Accented Vowels!
on: November 24, 2014, 12:24

Is the ü pronounced as in German or in some other way? If I have understood correctly, that phone doesn't exist in English (or perhaps the problem is just in my pronounciation). It exists in Finnish, though, so I have always assumed Tékumelani ü is the same as the German ü.
luther
Dlántü (Clan-Head)
Posts: 133
Post Re: Accented Vowels!
on: November 26, 2014, 09:41

I am sure I read that the "ü" is pronounced like the "i" in "fish" (in the back of one of the novels?). Thus, Hlüss would be pronounced hliss (as in "hiss"). Now, looking at The Tsolyáni Language Primer (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/1770/The-Tsolyni-Primer?term=tekumel+primer&it=1), I find reference to it being pronounced as in Germanic languages (i.e., "ü as German Führer", page 7 of the Primer pdf).

I am now confused, but will concede to the Primer for now. I'll see if I can find the other reference. I had originally assumed the Germanic pronunciation and would have stuck with it had I not read other instructions.
luther
Dlántü (Clan-Head)
Posts: 133
Post Re: Accented Vowels!
on: November 26, 2014, 10:12

I found one source of my confusion:

"In western Tsolyanu, (the dividing line being roughly the Missuma River) this is the German umlaut “ü” of “für,” a high front rounded vowel. In the east, however, this vowel is the [i] of Turkish, the “i without a dot”; a high central unrounded vowel. Some western American dialects have a contrast between this [i] and other vowels; e.g., “just” as in “he’s a just man,” vs. “gist” as in “the gist of it,” vs. “jist” as in “he’s jist coming’” (a “Cowboy Western pronunciation”). The last of these is similar to the Tsolyani vowel discussed here. It is this [i] pronunciation which is preferred in the Tsolyani capital and at court. in preceding transcriptions of Tsolyani the author had used the symbol “y” to represent both this vowel and also the consonant /y/, but this has given rise to confusion; therefore the “umlaut ü” is being substituted in this text. It is up to the student to decide which of the two pronunciations to adopt. The second part of the name of the capital, /bé sü/ is thus / sü/ or / si/ — never “sea” or “so” or “sigh”"

Page 3 of The Tsolyani Language, Part I, by Dr. Barker, published by Adventure Games, 1978

I typed the above looking at a pdf that is a "photo" of the original (mimeograph?) printing.

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/2231/The-Tsolyni-Language?it=1
Pages: [1]
Mingle Forum by cartpauj
Version: 1.0.33.2 ; Page loaded in: 0.049 seconds.